I was reading Chapter 2 this morning. For some reason, this sentence jumped off the page at me like it never has before:

"The almost certain consequences that follow taking even a glass of beer do not crowd into the mind to deter us." (Page 24)

My last (and hopefully only) relapse started with a glass of beer. There was the thought that it wasn't smart, but the certainly not enough of a thought to stop the triggering of the obsession.

Your thoughts? Experiences?

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My experiences were that no matter how hard I tried to drink like other people, I could not do it. They say it's the first drink that gets you drunk and it's true (I've done the research). I don't know why it took me so long to learn I simply can not have "just one".
I sometimes play a game my wife calls "Mental Masturbation"..I don't do it intentionally it just sorta creeps out .....It goes like this...We go to dinner and I want and order a beer. I drink the one beer and go home. OK I know I can do this..no problem....except...all week I'm thinking...I had one friday night and it was no issue.....I bet I can have two this friday night without a problem.
The PROBLEM is I was successful having the one beer. The mind game is ON.

Now this scenario has not ever occured but it runs through my head off and on proving one thing for sure...I GOT to be an alkie...normal people do not even give thought like this enough daylight to enter.

Good Topic Rob..Give Debberz a hug for me :)))
My opinion is that we alcoholics beat ourselves up enough as it is! Even in sobriety! If you do drink, I hope you enjoy yourself! i hope you live long enough to get back into the rooms. If I drink, it won't be 1 beer or for 1 night. I GOTTA Think, Think, Think before I take that Drink, Drink, Drink. I GOTTA play that video through to it's predictable end. Been there, Done that. Lost the Tee Shirt! We are alcoholics, We Drink! That's what we do, But for the Grace of a God of Your understanding. Period.
I was the same way.My mental powers was no match for the obsession to drink
I tried to think it thru,no luck
I later found out and surrendered to the fact I had no mental defense against the first drink...I lost every time..
With my higher power's help I haven't relapsed, yet. But the one glass proposal fits me well because I was a binge drinker, and the deception of just one would be trap indeed.
Thanks for the topic Rob. I wish I read more but I never seem to find the time. My sobriety was facilitated by my wife's ultimatum; "the bottle or me". I conformed, went to meetings, did 90 in 90, didn't drink...for 8-1/2 months. Things were better. I felt better, I was doing everything right. Then my wife went away for a week on a ski vacation. I knew (and shared about it in meetings ) that some day I would drink again. The first night she was away I bought a case of beer. I felt like a man just freed from prison But something strange happened after the 3rd beer; I was saying to myself "you're only drinking because you can get away with it." It was like my Higher Power was speaking directly to me! I took the rest of the beer to a dumpster in a beer store parking lot and haven't had a drink in 5 years! AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME I HAD A SPIRITUAL AWAKENING! I SERRENDERED TO THE FACT THAT I WAS AN ALCOHOLIC. I THANK GOD FOR THAT EXPERIENCE.
sometimes people think well no one is going to know then when you realized you feel something- it was a teardrop from heaven!!!

Joe M. said:
Thanks for the topic Rob. I wish I read more but I never seem to find the time. My sobriety was facilitated by my wife's ultimatum; "the bottle or me". I conformed, went to meetings, did 90 in 90, didn't drink...for 8-1/2 months. Things were better. I felt better, I was doing everything right. Then my wife went away for a week on a ski vacation. I knew (and shared about it in meetings ) that some day I would drink again. The first night she was away I bought a case of beer. I felt like a man just freed from prison But something strange happened after the 3rd beer; I was saying to myself "you're only drinking because you can get away with it." It was like my Higher Power was speaking directly to me! I took the rest of the beer to a dumpster in a beer store parking lot and haven't had a drink in 5 years! AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME I HAD A SPIRITUAL AWAKENING! I SERRENDERED TO THE FACT THAT I WAS AN ALCOHOLIC. I THANK GOD FOR THAT EXPERIENCE.
The funny thing about that idea "no one will know". In my case, every time I took a drink, I got drunk and everyone knew. LOL!

james b said:
sometimes people think well no one is going to know then when you realized you feel something- it was a teardrop from heaven!!!

Joe M. said:
Thanks for the topic Rob. I wish I read more but I never seem to find the time. My sobriety was facilitated by my wife's ultimatum; "the bottle or me". I conformed, went to meetings, did 90 in 90, didn't drink...for 8-1/2 months. Things were better. I felt better, I was doing everything right. Then my wife went away for a week on a ski vacation. I knew (and shared about it in meetings ) that some day I would drink again. The first night she was away I bought a case of beer. I felt like a man just freed from prison But something strange happened after the 3rd beer; I was saying to myself "you're only drinking because you can get away with it." It was like my Higher Power was speaking directly to me! I took the rest of the beer to a dumpster in a beer store parking lot and haven't had a drink in 5 years! AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME I HAD A SPIRITUAL AWAKENING! I SERRENDERED TO THE FACT THAT I WAS AN ALCOHOLIC. I THANK GOD FOR THAT EXPERIENCE.
That's part of the insanity of the disease. We may have killed someone last week when drunk, we may have lost our children because of our addiction. We "forget" temporarily the pain because we have a disease.

Working the twelve steps with a sponsor and working with newcomers keeps our desease in "remission". The Big Book tells us that nothing can keep us sober like working with another alcoholic. I think in part, because it keeps fresh in our minds the destruction that this disease leaves behind. So does and honest 4th , 5th, 7th, 8th, 9th step.

This is a BEAUTIFUL program! Simple and profound. Get a sponsor and use the program...the miracle will happen!

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